From: Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>
To: Krish <krishneel@gmail.com>
Stephane.Serafin <Stephane.Serafin@uottawa.ca>
CC: a.m.tettenborn <a.m.tettenborn@swansea.ac.uk>
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Date: 17/11/2022 18:44:56 UTC
Subject: RE: ODG: Vicarious Performance in Contract Law

I post on behalf of Steve Hedley:

 

 

In principle it must be a matter of interpretation.  For most commercial goods and services, the natural interpretation will surely be that A is paying for the goods/services to be provided, and who provides them is beside the point.  But there would be some cases where the personality matters; for example, it would surely be implicit in most (?all) employment contracts that the employee should do the work, not merely that the work should be done.  There are of course borderline cases, e.g. Boulton v Jones (1857). ‘Agency’ seems to me to be a red herring in this context.  

 

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From: Krish <krishneel@gmail.com>
Sent: November 17, 2022 1:29 PM
To: Stephane.Serafin <Stephane.Serafin@uottawa.ca>
Cc: a.m.tettenborn <a.m.tettenborn@swansea.ac.uk>; Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>; obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: ODG: Vicarious Performance in Contract Law

 

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I agree with Stéphane, and think it comes down to what exactly is promised.  Is it the result that has been promised, or is it the act/attempt, or both?  If it is only the result that is promised, I can't see any problem in principle with subcontracting the work out to someone else.

 

Krish

 

On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 at 10:24, Stéphane Sérafin <Stephane.Serafin@uottawa.ca> wrote:

Absent a duty requiring personal service in the contract I don’t really see what the problem with delegated performance would be. The promisor is bound to deliver the book, and if the book is not delivered then the promisor is liable for breach. But if the promisor does deliver the book to the promisee, even through an intermediary, then the book has been delivered.

 

Not to go full civilian here but the Civil Code of Québec has an article that expressly deals with this issue – art. 1555 – and I see no reason to think that the common law position should be much different.

 

From: Andrew Tettenborn <a.m.tettenborn@swansea.ac.uk>
Sent: November 17, 2022 1:14 PM
To: Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>; obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: ODG: Vicarious Performance in Contract Law

 

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There certainly are some cases where subcontracting has deprived a claimant of the right to the price. A nice one is the solicitors' case of Pearless de Rougemont & Co v Pilbrow [1999] 3 All E.R. 355, where a law firm delegated a job in breach of contract to an unqualified employee: the court was clear that however well the latter actually did the job the firm hadn't rendered contractual performance and couldn't claim their fee. -Andrew

 

On 17/11/2022 17:14, Jason W Neyers wrote:

Dear Colleagues:

 

Suppose that A wants to ship something (a book) from Toronto to X in another location. A contracts with B Ltd. to do the shipping. The book arrives and X takes possession. It turns out that as a matter of fact B Ltd. did not do the shipping (or all of the shipping) but instead that other contractors did. Can A sue for breach? Can A refuse to pay the contract price if it is demanded by B Ltd? Why is the answer to these questions generally no? Is it just a question of contract interpretation or is there some legal recognition that B Ltd actually performed the contract through the “agency” of the other contractors, who performed on B Ltd’s behalf?

 

If anyone has any views on this or knows of any good discussions in caselaw, article or textbooks, I would be delighted to be pointed in the right direction.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

esig-law

Jason Neyers
Professor of Law
Faculty of Law
Western University
Law Building Rm 26
e. jneyers@uwo.ca
t. 519.661.2111 (x88435)

 

 

 

 

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